I saw how many people were poor and how many kids my age went to school hungry in the morning which I don't think most of my contemporaries in racially segregated schools in the South thought very much about at the time.

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These individuals on steroids does it enhance their career does it give them a little more strength a little more stamina a little more psychological edge? Absolutely. How do you determine what - what their stats would be without steroids? It's impossible to tell.